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Hello John,
Sadly we don’t have a Duckling sheet horse in the AOA spare parts barn.
Have you tried groups like this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/859726647407445
https://www.facebook.com/groups/boatscrapyarduk
https://www.facebook.com/groups/sittingthererottinginaboatyard
https://www.facebook.com/groups/uffafox
Richard
As a former SAAB owner, I’m interested in the company’s history and products.
Following the Second World War, Fairey transferred their superb aircraft design and manufacturing skills to make Atalanta wooden yachts.
In Sweden, SAAB used their superb aircraft design and manufacturing skills to make cars as well as aircraft.
SAAB was formed in 1937 in Sweden, as an aeroplane manufacturer to provide planes for the Swedish Air Force, just as Europe was steeling itself for another war. The company’s full name was Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget, giving the world the acronym Saab. The head office moved to the Swedish university town of Linköping. It was there in 1945, amid various dreams of diversification, that a project to develop motor cars got underway.
The Saab car project was called Project 92, as 92 was the next number in the production sequence after Saab 91, the Safir, a single engine trainer aircraft. SAAB’s cars actually owed a great debt to SAAB aeroplane design. The company’s aircraft engineers thought they could use their knowledge of aerodynamics from aircraft manufacturing to improve the performance compared to that of the German cars that were on the market in Sweden at the time.
SAAB 92 Morris Minor
The SAAB 92 went on sale in 1950 and was designed from a clean sheet of paper. It was a unique little car. Its aviation background led to a streamline appearance which was shaped in the company’s wind tunnel. Its drag coefficient was 0.30, which is considered excellent even by today’s standard. The SAAB 92 was one of the first mass production cars to feature space-saving front-engine and front-wheel-drive. This not only allowed its cabin to have a flat floor but also gave the car superior traction and safe handling.
Hi Trefor,
Above is the main cabin keel viewing plate, which I have replaced with Perspex, so I can keep an eye on what’s going on.
Below is the outer keel bolt water covers mentioned by the others. On my boat, they are kept in place by thin box section with a drilled 10 mm bolt pressing on the centre of the cover. Others have screws in the cover plates. Good luck and please report back.
Hello Doug,
When I was looking at the same idea in 2014, I received conflicting advice. I didn’t want to drill a hole in the hull, so I fitted a transducer carefully on the transom, as close to the centreline as possible. Occasionally, if really heeled over, it will go into memory, but if I ease off for a couple of seconds, I get a depth reading quickly. I connected it to an old Garmin Fishfinder display and it works well.Doug,
I have always used 800 kg (1760 lbs) as the weight of A89’s trailer, which is a 1975 Bramber trailer, converted to AOA spec by Zetwins in 1977.
I’ve just been online and basic modern 26 foot trailers are quoted as 670 kg – 750 kg, so when you add the weight of the 3 timber supports, it adds up to about 800 kg.
Richard
Hello Andrew, AKA Bear Grills,
Servicing the keels and hoist mechanism is easy once you have done your homework and read all the advice in the Tech Paper and other owners’ top tips. I agree with Nick that you should join the AOA for only £20 a year and you will not believe the amount of support you will be offered.
Cheers, Richard, SecretaryDom – Good spot, it looks like NYLON does take in water. That really surprised the shipwright.
We offered up A154’s sealing boards to A16 Dervorguilla and A89 Colchide on Wednesday, and found they seem to present upside down. Further, it looks like the strengthening blocks are fitted to the wrong side. We have taken lots of photos and plan an article about all this soon.
Thank you George.
My friend who is making me a new front door (in Accoya) is a master joiner and qualified shipwright. He came round the other day and saw the sealing boards I got from A154. He suggested a remake in NYLON BLOCK.Nick and I will offer up A154’s boards to A89 tomorrow, just before she comes out the water.
Hello Jonathan,
Please could you post some photos of Bluster’s lower keel box wooden sealing blocks and the fittings.
Hello Ryan,
I used to be with another insurer, but switched to GJW. Here’s an extract from the 2018 AOA AGM Minutes:
The Secretary had contacted GJW and stated that contrary to recent reports, GJW did not require a survey from an AOA member wishing to insure their boat. GJW stated that they knew the AOA very well, had a long claim-free working relationship with us and would be happy to continue insuring Atalantas.
However, the only change was that the previous “1933” payback code scheme had ended.
In future, discounts would be given to individual clients.
I am paying £198 for £7500 cover.
Hello Doug,
I too would lower the pressure plates to the ground using a wire coat hangar or thin rope. This is easier if your cabin keel inspection caps are removed. You should label all keel bolts and plates and return them from whence they came. Paper F has some great advice, and is available to members free of charge in the Reference section of this website.
When the plates and bolts are all out on a bench, I recommend you check the doublers for wear and confirm that the bolt D Sections lock into them OK, and do not slip past. If in doubt, please upload some photos. See photo below, noting one doubler is set back and the other in the photo is not. Also it’s worth checking and perhaps re-painting the keel boxes behind the pressure plates. The second photo below shows one of Martin Bennett’s keel bolts which he has milled grease channels into, to allow better grease penetration. Good luck.
Hello Rory,
Although you had useful replies from my mates Dom, Nick & Mike (who have all sailed with me on A89) here is my take on it, in the order that points have been raised.
I spoke to the seller a few days ago and he is expecting a signed letter from the owner, confirming free transfer of ownership. So on that basis, I would keep bidding and ask the seller to produce the signed letter before I went to collect the boat.
The missing parts – Secondhand sails are available and often come up on various websites. If anyone reading this has spare Atalanta sails, please post details. The other missing parts could be made, and we have a couple of members who “store” lots of spares.
I like your idea about budget dry storage – a small movable field shelter that can be rolled on and off to work on the boat.
Whether you decide to rescue A55 or not, best wishes.
Dear All,
If you want to see the actual weather in Winderemere, have a look at this:
Doug,
Nick’s a bit busy at the moment spinning about 5 plates, trying to post all the videos on time, whilst trying to get people onto google meets video conferencing, and emailing people, and phoning people and remembering to breathe…….
Nick sold that super Citroen, and has bought an electric car.
Regards,
Richard
Hello Doug,
This is “Keymaster”.
Just to explain, I am an Admin for the website, so it has given me that title.
Also to explain Nick’s comment, I was asked to be a guinea pig tester for the Covid 19 home test, which just arrived in the post.
Regards,
Richard James
AOA Sec
Got to Ings virtual B&B late last night. Many thanks to Dom & Karen for letting us recharge our EV car at their place on our long drive up.
We really enjoyed the virtual beers too.
Leaving virtual B&B soon to go to virtual Bowness.
Her is a photo of A 89’s trailer brakes, for comparison:
